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18 February 2009

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What makes this all the worse is the ref, Tim Luscombe's, attitude.

He thinks he the shit. Cocky (without cause) as the day is long.

He talks down to the players, struts around like he's really something, when he's this skinny dork with a whistle.

He has ruined more rugby matches in his short career than any 10 refs. He's one of the new boy refs, who think their shite doesn't stink.

He has no idea how much his attitude and ego trip hurts the players. How wrong is it for an ass clown like this to steal dreams away from our Sevens team.

Shame on Tim Luscombe. Take your pommyass back from where you've came.

Luscombe did not care for your previous attacks to Roberts and Melville on this blog.

Melville was very thankful that Luscombe made that call. If the Eagles 7's had made the final, everything that he, Roberts and Johnson had said would be a lie.

Not to mention that he'd actually have to admit that he had absolutely nothing to do with that successful tourney or program.

The 7's program mirrors the potential of the 15's program. We have a dozen Kevin Swiryns playing in College rugby today. Melville and Johnson couldn't find them and now has turned the playerpool into a cesspool.

Luscombe should be made to play a rugby match, that would teach his non-athletic, cocky ass a lesson.

His boyfriend won't let him.

Great to see "Pink Card" Tim exposed on the international stage.

If some of the IRB money received by USA Rugby was spent on improving the quality of the ref pool in this country, the speed of improvement and quality of the player pool would rise dramatically. I have seen many college coaches completely frustrated when they get a ref that can't call the contact area and watch their team struggle with what to do when the opposition is trowing 5 players into each ruck, half of them off their feet and the other half with hands in or feet flyhacking at the ball. Impossible learning environment.

Folks,
Knowledge is King.

Next time Tim-may awards a scrum to the opposition for your scrummie not taking the quick-tap properly, just say.. "should I have taken it with my heel?"

Then march the 10m back that you've just earned.. but they were oh so sweet

Just because a referee knows the Laws doesn't make him a good ref.

But a referee that doesn't know the Laws cannot be a good ref.

That ref got totally played by the Argie. After he said time on the Argie took 3 more practice drops before kicking it directly to touch timing the blast of the hooter perfectly. When the players on the field are more knowledgeable than the ref, things like this are going to happen.

Good Refs,
You should definitely get the award for post of the day. As a sport, our failure to effectively identify, train and develop match officials just may be the single most important issue facing our domestic competition today.

Marty,

We have no time, focus or money for training refs. At least not a well resourced effort.

Everything we have is being thrown at chasing test results, in the misguided belief that this will change for the better US rugby.

If we changed our approach we could have a quarter to half a million dollar program aimed partly at the top 10 refs (Tim Luscombe shouldn't be in this group) and at the average Saturday ref.

We have the funds, we just aren't spending them correctly.

Powder Puff may have closed the window on the Eagles chances, but our leadership is hiding behind those huge barn doors and waiting for somebody to knock.

I just don't get it.

Gents,

Hearing a lot of "we need more refs" and "we need better refs", but how many of you have picked up the whistle yourselves? How many have decided that instead of being the guy on the sideline with the can of Coors Light, you'll take responsibility for running touch attentively, and work with the referee of the day?

If you are still a legitimate full time player that's one thing, but so much of the bellowing seems to come from guys who could be contributing more as a match official, rather than denigrating others on web forums and from the touchline. Half the time the loudmouth guys are also the ones using gridiron terms for everything, pluralizing "offside" into "offsides".

Yes, between Andrew Small and Tim Luscombe a mistake may have been made (remember which one is the full time paid IRB/RFU official in the mix), but let's try to keep the comments on here constructive, there's no need for people to be personally offensive, especially when hiding behind forum aliases.

Nick,

Your comments are better directed at Mr Luscombe. It is his "personally offensive" attitude which is the fuel for all this.

He behavior is so disrespectful to players, week in and week out, that he is being targeted for his mistake. His smug attitude is coming home to roost. It's fair play to turn the tables on this particular ref.

As for the mistake itself Nick, you are wrong. The match ref was midfield at the halfway, 30 meters away. Tim Luscombe was the line judge. The ball went out on the full directly in front of him. It was his responsibility to relay this fact. He froze and failed to do anything. This left the ref no choice with the horn sounding. Could the ref have asked the question, yes, but lets make no doubt this was Luscombe call and he blew it.

It is one of the all-time blown calls in US rugby history and it belongs to Tim Luscombe. If he wasn't such a jerk to the everyday rugby player, maybe the playing side of the game would cut him a break. But since it's Luscombe he can own this for the balance of his career.

One last thing, the guy is not only a self-absorbed jerk, he's also a very average ref, how did he get in this 7's international in the first place.

He not only cost the Eagles he make USAR refs all look bad.

I think one point that is being missed is that the rules allow the game to be wasted away in such a manner. The ball was not live for the last 1:08 of the game. That is about 15% of the half. In a game where it is not unheard of to see two tries scored in a minutes time this is shameful.

The Argentinians should be embarassed for their poor sportsmanship, the iRB needs to review the rules at the end of the tournament season (stop the clock at conversion time) and the officials also need to sit down and clarify responsibility on the field.

"disagree Nick":
Does it have anything to do with him being:
young
fit
accented

On a parallel note, Chris Draper spent a few years in Scotland and came back with a pretty solid Scottish accent.

Did that have anything to do / help with his fast-tracking?

Don't get me wrong, Draper's a great ref. What I do wonder is if there is a subconscious preference to accented referees.

Just like in news broadcasting -- if the voice is not "convincing" you are less "convinced".

If wonder if the refereeing leadership in America tends to operate as follows:

if you have an accent, they notice everything you do right, and how you "command" the match
if you talk like a Yank, they notice your "development needs"

Draper needs a lot more development I wouldn't call him a great Ref he has had his fair share of blunders

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