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The "Top Down" model is because it is the only way that USA Rugby can justify the paying of CIPP dues. If there is not a national championship and all championships are local, then what is the justification of USA Rugby aside from managing the national teams?

USA Rugby is bust without the CIPP dues. It is their only reliable source of revenue, and the national competition is the only reason players pay it.

Why does the US college championship need to be a USA Rugby championship? Why don't the teams just get together and organize it, and stop all this BS.

How badly is UC Davis getting screwed in this? In the first round they play a bad Stanford team 3-9, that somehow still makes the PCRFU playoffs, while St Marys watches. Then has to play St Marys 24 hours later.

All this for a pay your way invite to the Balloon park in New Mexico.

It is the definition on insanity. We set up the same playoff system every year and expect a different result. Read any article about college rugby and you get the same message - no resources from the school and no help from Boulder. Then we have teams bailing at the last minute and other teams getting penalized by no fault of their own. Teams in Nor Cal play each other twice and go through a meat grinder before playoffs even start, while other leagues play 4 games and head straight to Nationals.

Nothing will change until USA Rugby either sees their CIPP revenue dry up because of decent by the clubs, or they start getting sponsorship and broadcast dollars that make the CIPP revenue less important. If the latter happens, watch them kick member services to the curb ASAP and become whores to the sponsors and broadcasters.

What a bunch of morons. Teams like Texas A&M and WSU choose to spend their money competing in tournaments or going on tours because they know they cannot compete for a national championship. Then we get people complaining about USA Rugby's role in all of this? Maybe if WSU got a real coach for once or TAMU progressed beyond having the Texas U19 team and had some coaching, they would do decently. Until then, fuck the heck?

Hey, did any of you happen to hear what Davidson did when their school made the Elite 8 in the NCAA Tournament? They paid for travel and hotels and tickets for EVERY student that wanted to attend and support their team. It is a model example of how a college should support their athletic clubs. Why should the blame fall on USA Rugby to finance the travel of all these teams to postseason games? The NCAA doesn't pay for teams postseason appearances. If it is such an issue, why don't these teams ask the school for money - if they are an upstanding club, competing for national title and recognition, I am sure the school will be able to help with some funding. However, sadly, most of the teams are still perceived(not without good reason) and drunken fools and give the university no reason to support them beyond their initial budget. As pointed out before, these teams spend their budgets on tour as opposed to saving up for national championships travel...To argue that USA Rugby should pay the fees for these teams is preposterous. Does the NFL pay for teams to travel in the playoffs? How about the NBA? It is a cost for the individual club to set aside and deal with! Besides, if USA Rugby did give these teams additional funds, wouldn't it be a bigger issue since they are giving money to only 30 or so clubs as opposed to all of them? Guaranteed the day after there would be an article on gainline bashing USA Rugby for favoritism

You are wrong, the NCAA pays for team expenses to their championshis.

J-Tang -
Did you just wake up from a very long nap? Most colleges could really care less about rugby and rate the team right next to the ultimate frisbee team. They have a set budget for the entire club sports program - no more, no less. Unless a sugar daddy almuni ponies up, the program usually competes for scraps. That is the reality of college rugby in the USA.

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